Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Nowhere To Run To, Nowhere To Hide

So after the police presence on the Virginia Tech campus went through the roof the police were still helpless to prevent a second attack. What the fuck do the police protect us from?

Wouldn't it have been better to allow students to carry weapons to protect themselves rather then wait for the police to arrive on campus and save the day? What do you mean they were already there? Then why didn't they save the other 30 lives?

For crying out loud. The gunman only killed 2 people in the dorm that morning. Then two fucking hours later when an army of police officers were on the scene the guy kills 30 more. Where were theses 30 other people? Locked in their labs? In a big open cafeteria? No they were in a classroom. Sitting like ducks with no way to defend themselves. In a gun free zone.

There are two things in the back of every teachers mind. Two possibilities that we're always dreading. One is having a student who accuses us of sexual assault which even if it is proven untrue will still end our career. The other is getting shot.

I teach in a room with no door knob. It broke a month ago and the physical plant is in no hurry to fix it. My classroom connects without a locking door to two other classrooms. That's 60-70 kids sitting like ducks if we go into lockdown again.

If I had the chance, I'd be willing to carry a weapon. I'd have no problem returning fire. It beats dieing with my hands in front of my face cowering behind a desk.

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Blogger RicketyFunk said...

I still don't feel right agreeing with the idea that you can defend yourself with an offensive weapon, but now would be a great time to gently prompt the facilities management to fix your door.

A few weeks or months ago, there was a state rep. in Wisconsin who proposed a bill that would allow or require educators to carry handguns. As absurd as it sounded then, even in the wake of a principal being shot to death in a rural school, it doesn't seem like too bad of an idea now.

Apr 17, 2007, 1:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Adorable Girlfriend said...

A gun is not the answer. That's all AG is going to say.

Apr 18, 2007, 8:59:00 AM  
Blogger Kevin Wolf said...

AG said it for me. That's all I'm going to say.

Apr 18, 2007, 3:30:00 PM  
Blogger Bry said...

If everyone on campus has a gun, I want to know how many accidental injuries, drunken gun accidents and other "side effects" you would see.

Compare all the "side effect" injuries and deaths to thirty-three people killed in the many years of the university's existence.

Even better: what if every university in the country allowed every student to carry a weapon? How many accidental injuries and deaths would there be nation-wide? And how many shootings averted?

I still think it's safer in the long term not to have students carry.

Allowing just professors/teachers to carry? Maybe.

Apr 19, 2007, 1:15:00 PM  
Blogger Dean ASC said...

How many guns actually kill people? How many cars actually kill people? I'm probably going to be kicked out of the teachers union for saying this but Calculus is something that needs to be taught. Not hurting yourself or someone you care about with a dangerous tool is something we don't teach for very long or very well in the education system. Most people are pretty good about not wanting to hurt people. Americans aren't all wild west shooting guns into the air drunk all the time. Go to Mexico for that. If you think I'm being a racist asshole for saying that, I'm not. Mexicans shoot in the air all the time for no reason but to hear the gun go off. No one gets hurt the way the gun grabbers want us to think. If you think a bunch of beer swilling college frat boys can't be trusted with guns you're probably selling the intellect of our future leaders short. You're also being sexist. Which I'm not afraid to say is getting just as tired as being racist.

Apr 20, 2007, 4:41:00 PM  
Anonymous lisajsc said...

I would not trust a bunch of drunken sorority (sp?) girls with guns.
With recent events that have occured at local schools, both publically known and not, I would be worried if teachers carried guns and their students got a hold of them. I have had a student throw a book at me. And you know how much social ettiquette most kids have these days. They are always touching things that do not belong to them.

Apr 21, 2007, 7:41:00 AM  
Blogger Dean ASC said...

The gun would be holstered or secured in a gunsafe in the classroom. It is possible to keep kids out of things.

Apr 21, 2007, 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous lisajsc said...

So, say a student pulls a gun out in class. How much time do I have to open said safe and pull out my gun before they start shooting?

Apr 23, 2007, 9:12:00 AM  
Blogger Bry said...

Lisa's right about keeping it away from kids and not being able to get it out of a safe quickly.

Drunks and guns don't mix. Sorority, Frat house - it doesn't matter. Drunks and guns don't mix.

Selling our future leaders short? I'm not touching that one. There's far too much there.

Apr 25, 2007, 2:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's a bad idea all around!

Apr 25, 2007, 9:39:00 PM  

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